i e use home lima for the home directory and 4096 for the us rancher-users #lima

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best-city-49378

06/20/2022, 8:13 PM

i.e. use "/home/lima" for the home directory and 4096 for the user id. or something to that effect, there just is no "mapping" the regular user name is prefixed with the domain (in upper case, of course) and then a backslash to make sure it fails

fast-garage-66093

06/20/2022, 8:54 PM

Note that even on macOS we check if the username is a valid Linux username, and then just fall back to

lima

if it isn't.

best-city-49378

06/21/2022, 5:53 AM

Right, need to do the same for the home directory and the user id. Which requires mounts to have different endpoints

That is, use the Cygwin $HOME and not the Windows path (

C:\Users\…

)

And use

id -u

and

id -g

, instead of the uid and gid strings (Windows SID)

Changed to use the same path as on the host, instead of having different endpoints

So it will use

/c/Users/anders

, which is also known as

C:\Users\anders

on the host

fast-garage-66093

06/22/2022, 5:54 PM

This is now turning "Lima for Windows" into "Lima for Cygwin"... If I have to use Unix conventions to use it, why wouldn't I just run "Lima for Linux" inside WSL2?

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 5:43 AM

No, it would be C:\Users\anders on the Windows side but mapped into /c/Users/anders on the Linux side

The plan was to use either MinGW (Git for Windows) or MSYS2, not cygwin and the Unix runtime it provides

The main reason is that I don't want to package bash.exe or ssh.exe and I don't want to rewrite any scripts

But it would still be regular windows programs (not unix, like cygwin) even if some concepts are needed (id, cygpath)

It is still just an experiment, I will try to make it work - but I don't know if it will be a realistic and usable option

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 5:50 AM

Ok, good. I've never been a fan of Cygwin (even though I used parts of it for a long time), because it always felt like a kludge. MSYS2 feels much more "native" (but didn't have all the pieces I needed, like

sshd

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 5:52 AM

I have never used DOS or Windows, went from the Mac straight to Unix. And then ended up on Linux, in the end.

At one point I was using "Office" as my main OS, and there it turned out Windows was the most compatible one 🙂

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 5:54 AM

I had to build software for AIX, HP-UX, Linux, OS X, Solaris, and Windows, so scripting the "build system" was challenging

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 5:55 AM

Indeed. It was /bin/sh and workarounds

Too much m4 that you can never unlearn

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 5:58 AM

That I fortunately avoided completely... Perl for everything and forever! :P

😀 1

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 6:02 AM

I kinda miss Perl and Ruby, too much python or python3 or python3.10 these days <sigh>

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 6:04 AM

Just checked https://github.com/Perl/perl5/blob/16c008e8f043d70c0f6e756ddb926c6b24a3b9b2/README.win32#L768

So it looks like I'm still the official maintainer of

README.win32

for Perl5 (and one of the authors of

README.cygwin

) 🙂

Although I've retired from actively maintaining Perl for over 10 years now

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 6:07 AM

Congratulations! I never knew that I would be running virtual machines on Mac and Win, when I signed up to work with containers on Linux

Maybe next year ? (The Linux desktop)

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 6:08 AM

The Mandalorian says: It is the way!

I think WSL2 is pretty much where Linux on the Desktop is going

https://github.com/microsoft/wslg

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 6:09 AM

Yeah, VM forever

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 6:11 AM

Pulse Audio on Windows, what a time to be alive! 😂

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 6:12 AM

People even want a VM on Linux, just to feel “at home”. Not so much for isolation, just to make it like Mac or Win

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 6:12 AM

What?

I do understand wanting a VM for containers, so you can quickly wipe and reinstall though

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 6:13 AM

https://docs.docker.com/desktop/linux/

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 6:14 AM

Yeah, we had no plans to do Rancher Desktop for Linux, but there were a significant number of people asking for it, so we added it as well

Actually I think we had it before Docker 🙂

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 6:16 AM

Benefit of the web app, I think Podman was reconsidering their Mac-only app as well

Making me sad, think I will work with something else - back to the Raspberry Pi perhaps.

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 6:22 AM

Do you just do this for fun, or do you also need it for work?

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 6:23 AM

It was work (for learning Docker and Kubernetes development), now it is more of a hobby

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 6:24 AM

For personal use, I never needed kubernetes; just plain docker or docker-compose is always enough for me

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 6:25 AM

Otherwise it is normally embedded Linux or Android, or cloud systems (so either “smaller” or “bigger” than desk)

We had three form-factors: docker-machine, minikube, small 4-node cluster - and then on to production (the shared cloud nodes, that is)

fast-garage-66093

06/23/2022, 6:30 AM

I'm happy to be working on desktop software again. I worked on Cloudfoundry (for Kubernetes) for many years, and it was so tedious, making changes, waiting 30min-2h for CI to do a full cycle...

By the time CI was done, I had already forgotten why I made the change in the first place 😄

Anyways, good luck with the Lima for Windows port! I'm curious how it turns out, even though I think WSL2 will continue to have the edge in the end

best-city-49378

06/23/2022, 6:37 AM

You are probably right. I might include it in the minikube QEMU driver, but I’m not sure it will be more than an open and portable alternative

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