Anyone know offhand why rancher desktop is still an x86 64 a rancher-users #rancher-desktop

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# rancher-desktop

quick-keyboard-83126

06/13/2022, 8:47 PM

Anyone know offhand why rancher desktop is still an x86_64 app on m1 (macOS)?

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/Applications/Rancher <http://Desktop.app/Contents/MacOS/Rancher|Desktop.app/Contents/MacOS/Rancher> Desktop: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64

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% hdiutil info; file /Volumes/Rancher\ Desktop\ 1.4.1/Rancher\ <http://Desktop.app/Contents/MacOS/Rancher\|Desktop.app/Contents/MacOS/Rancher\> Desktop
framework       : 623.100.1
driver          : 623.100.1
================================================
image-path      : /Users/jsoref/Downloads/Rancher.Desktop-1.4.1.aarch64.dmg
image-alias     : /Users/jsoref/Downloads/Rancher.Desktop-1.4.1.aarch64.dmg
shadow-path     : <none>
icon-path       : <none>
image-type      : read-only disk image
system-image    : false
blockcount      : 2669856
blocksize       : 512
writeable       : false
autodiskmount   : TRUE
removable       : TRUE
image-encrypted : false
mounting user   : jsoref
mounting mode   : <unknown>
process ID      : 16402
framework name  : DiskImages2
/dev/disk4	GUID_partition_scheme
/dev/disk4s1	48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC	/Volumes/Rancher Desktop 1.4.1
/Volumes/Rancher Desktop 1.4.1/Rancher <http://Desktop.app/Contents/MacOS/Rancher|Desktop.app/Contents/MacOS/Rancher> Desktop: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64

ok, it's https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop/issues/1416

@proud-jewelry-46860 is there a reason to run

ssh

and friends as

Intel

proud-jewelry-46860

06/13/2022, 9:12 PM

Nope; but we should just move to arch64 electron…

quick-keyboard-83126

06/13/2022, 9:13 PM

Is there anything actually stopping that at this point?

proud-jewelry-46860

06/13/2022, 9:13 PM

Just finding somebody to do it, I think

quick-keyboard-83126

06/13/2022, 9:13 PM

is it just a packaging thing? I'm tempted...

I see there's this fun bit, but that seems ancillary and like one could make it smarter: https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop/blob/fb7af96b541f24fff05910a8185feda527f05e7c/scripts/download/tools.mjs#L122

@proud-jewelry-46860: here you go, it works in

npm run dev

, it only changes electron and lima since they're fairly closely coupled. We can separately switch out docker and the other underlying support tools. https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop/pull/2387

@fast-garage-66093 working on making the CI a bit happier right now...

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:37 PM

Thanks! Just for my understanding: with your changes, you can still build the M1 version on Intel, right?

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 9:38 PM

I'm pretty sure, I do actually have an intel mac behind this m1, so I suppose I could try locally... I locally have added the ability to only build the intel version on m1 using M1=0, since it seems like maybe someone might oddly want that... note: I don't have signing working locally, so i can't actually run any of these packages (I don't understand that and don't really want to).

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:40 PM

Right now we build both packages on Intel, and only deploy on M1 for testing, and it would not be easy to change this quickly

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 9:40 PM

right, not trying to break that

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:41 PM

Not sure why you think you need signing; I regularly run packages build by CI on both Intel and M1, and they work fine

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 9:41 PM

when i try to open the app (m1 or not) from the .app it opens for a split second and quits

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:42 PM

You do need to remove the Quarantine bit though, if you download from Github:

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xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/Rancher\ <http://Desktop.app/|Desktop.app/>

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 9:42 PM

AMFI: '/private/var/folders/r3/n29fz25x72x191fdv6mhhr3m0000gp/T/.io.rancherdesktop.app.3bv7jR': Unrecoverable CT signature issue, bailing out.

this isn't a downloaded

.app

, it's a locally built and packaged

.app

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:43 PM

I'm pretty sure the packaging code is running ad-hoc signing, so if this isn't working on the build machine, then something is broken

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 9:43 PM

not build machine, my machine

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:44 PM

You said you build locally, so build machine should be your machine. Or I'm confused now

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 9:44 PM

oh, ok, yes, i'm not used to thinking of my machine as the "build machine"

to me, "build machines" are project resources that I (or others) ask to do work at times

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:46 PM

Anyways, the builds created by Github Actions on public Github runners work on all my machines (after clearing quarantine bits), and they are not signed except with a ad-hoc signatures

Well, the main app has not signature at all (on Intel):

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$ codesign -dvvvv /Applications/Rancher\ <http://Desktop.app|Desktop.app>
/Applications/Rancher <http://Desktop.app|Desktop.app>: code object is not signed at all

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 9:47 PM

yeah, that's what i have

ok, so, how do i debug it not properly starting?

npm run dev

works fine

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:50 PM

Sorry, I can't remember; everything regarding signing/notarization is somewhat arcane and changes with time 😞

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 9:51 PM

is there a basic flag to beg for stderr/stdout logging?

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:52 PM

Did you try running it from the commandline?

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$ /Applications/Rancher\ <http://Desktop.app/Contents/MacOS/Rancher\|Desktop.app/Contents/MacOS/Rancher\> Desktop

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 9:53 PM

I tried using the MacOS/... thing too

it opened for a few moments and then quit

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:53 PM

And nothing on the console? Just returned to the shell prompt with no output?

idk what the

MacOS/...

thing is

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 9:54 PM

Rancher <http://Desktop.app|Desktop.app> % ./Contents/MacOS/Rancher\ Desktop

hmm, right now that actually is giving me an error dialog, but i have no idea which iteration of the app it is, so i need to go repackage the app and try a fresh one 🙂

(if i can remember which incantation will build the packages...)

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 9:58 PM

Maybe it is due to your OS version: I'm running Catalina on Intel, and Big Sur on M1. Let me try on Intel Monterey laptop, to see if that makes a difference

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:05 PM

ok, right now the arm .app just spits out a single line to the console before quitting:

objc[79123]: Class WebSwapCGLLayer is implemented in both /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/WebCore.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/libANGLE-shared.dylib (0x22ebb7808) and /Applications/Rancher Desktop 4.app/Contents/Frameworks/Electron Framework.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLESv2.dylib (0x1088713c8). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:07 PM

Did you try to run a CI version on that machine? If that works, then you know the issue is with your build. If it doesn't, then the issue with how the machine is configured?

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:08 PM

so, like something from: https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop/actions/runs/2497717217 ?

I've tried various things and a bunch of things didn't work that i expected to work, i'll grab those two dmgs and see how they behave

ok, so, this gets me the standard quarantine bit that i need to clear w/...

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:11 PM

Yes, that is normal.

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xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/Rancher\ <http://Desktop.app/|Desktop.app/>

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:12 PM

xattr -d com.apple.quarantine ...

So, it runs, but, amusingly it tells me there's an update available (which is probably wrong)

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:13 PM

Yes, you need to disable auto-update, otherwise it will downgrade (and fail)

Because CI builds have broken semver settings based on

git describe

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:14 PM

yeah, i had to give git a tag to get the build to work at all (i default to stripping all tags)

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:14 PM

In semver

1.4.2-22

is a pre-release for

1.4.1

and not a later version

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:14 PM

could we eventually fix it to not say there's an update available if it can't find an update?

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:14 PM

How about Disable auto-updates when running a CI build · Issue #2312 · rancher-sandbox/rancher-desktop ?

The problem is that it does find an update (see above)

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:15 PM

So, 1/2 of the images from the build i picked worked ?

oh, it found a thing, but didn't find the release notes for the thing?

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:16 PM

You are running the wrong version on your M1.

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:17 PM

oh, the x86_64 build won't work at all?

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:17 PM

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:17 PM

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:17 PM

I forgot the reason, but it doesn't work. Even if it did, it would be terribly slow

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:17 PM

this i know 🙂

we spent a few months fixing our docker images to have arm images so we could run our db w/o it being painfully slow

then i spent a bit of time (yesterday?) helping a colleague who claimed that intellij was slow (it was because they were using the x86_64 version of intellij = x86_64 version of jre)

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:18 PM

I see that with Ventura you ran now use Rosetta2 from inside a Linux VM

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:19 PM

yeah, i saw that

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:19 PM

But it will require using Virtualization framework instead of QEMU, so not a simple change

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:19 PM

right

anyway, so, clearly i can run builds from github

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:20 PM

Yes, and they are unsigned. So if you cannot run your local builds, then there is something wrong with the way you build them

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:20 PM

right, so, then the question is how to debug this 😞

fast-garage-66093

06/14/2022, 10:22 PM

idk. There is a reason that we still use Rosetta with the Electron app...

I don't have time to dig into this now; so you are on your own for now, sorry 😞

quick-keyboard-83126

06/14/2022, 10:23 PM

that's ok, thanks for the time

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