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adamant-kite-43734
07/07/2022, 8:48 AMThis message was deleted.
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agreeable-oil-87482
07/07/2022, 8:57 AMCould the terraform process be:
Deploy k8s cluster -> Install Monitoring chart -> Install cert manager -> Install Rancherk
kind-air-74358
07/07/2022, 9:08 AMThat could be possible indeed, but I prefer to use Rancher Apps for all charts instead of managing some charts via Helm and others via Rancher Apps
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agreeable-oil-87482
07/07/2022, 9:10 AMEnd result should be the same
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kind-air-74358
07/07/2022, 9:11 AMTrue, but when I want to update / reconfigure one of those charts using just a single resource type would be easier 🙂
kind-air-74358
07/07/2022, 9:12 AMAnd agree I can deal with it this way, but was just wondering if I could just use Rancher Apps and not using Helm resources in Terraform
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agreeable-oil-87482
07/07/2022, 9:13 AMRancher apps is basically just helm
agreeable-oil-87482
07/07/2022, 9:13 AMBut I guess in this context you're talking about terraform resources?
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kind-air-74358
07/07/2022, 9:13 AMI know, but from a Terraform point of view it are two different resources (using two different providers)
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agreeable-oil-87482
07/07/2022, 9:13 AMGot it, that's fair
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kind-air-74358
07/07/2022, 9:14 AMSo as a workaround I can use terraform import and terraform state rm to ‘move’ helm resources to rancher app resources
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agreeable-oil-87482
07/07/2022, 9:15 AMYou could supply your own (temporary) secret/cert for Rancher for the initial install, then upgrade the Rancher install afterwards to leverage cert-manager and LE
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kind-air-74358
07/07/2022, 9:19 AMAh indeed, that could work. Will give that a try. Thank you!