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Hi, IDK about Rancher managing VM’s through Docker but I know Rancher can Manage harvester which utilizes KubeVirt under the hood . I would check that out as a base hypervisor If you want to integrate everything into the Rancher ecosystem.
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in that case, is "Harvester" installable on top of an existing setup, which would let me do both vms and containers on one system?
hm. harvester appears to use k8s?
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Harvester is a standalone self-contained HCI solution - see harvesterhci.io
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huh. how come there doesnt seem to be a system that does both vms and containers interchangeably?
@witty-jelly-95845 how does it work? can it do both vms and containers on the same system?