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adamant-kite-43734
03/13/2026, 9:50 AMThis message was deleted.
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creamy-pencil-82913
03/13/2026, 10:00 AMthe controller installs them itself when it starts up, if they are missing
creamy-pencil-82913
03/13/2026, 10:00 AMif you want to install them by hand you can find them in the system-upgrade-controller project release artifacts on GH
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abundant-napkin-79526
03/13/2026, 10:03 AMAh, cool - thanks!
abundant-napkin-79526
03/16/2026, 12:01 PMFollow-up question: I noticed it installs it's resources in cattle-system. Is there any point in installing the Helm chart outside of that namespace?
abundant-napkin-79526
03/16/2026, 2:55 PMWell, the answer seems to be that one can't install the helm release there specifically. But then the plans have to be created in the cattle-system namespace as well?
abundant-napkin-79526
03/16/2026, 3:02 PMOk, hammered out the kinks and got it to work.
Plans in
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creamy-pencil-82913
03/16/2026, 4:45 PMthe SUC can be deployed to watch plans in all namespaces, or only specific ones. I’m not sure what Rancher does by default.
creamy-pencil-82913
03/16/2026, 4:45 PMhttps://github.com/rancher/charts/blob/release-v2.12/charts/system-upgrade-controller/107.0.1/templates/deployment.yaml#L80-L83 says that it watches whatever namespace you deploy it to
creamy-pencil-82913
03/16/2026, 4:46 PMif that wasn’t set it would watch all
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abundant-napkin-79526
03/17/2026, 6:16 AMWell the deployment is hardcoded to cattle-system so I'm not sure how I would set that to something else?
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creamy-pencil-82913
03/17/2026, 7:07 AMThat one is yeah. People also run it standalone. It is covered in the k3s docs.
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abundant-napkin-79526
03/17/2026, 7:09 AMYep, thanks for your help as always Brad 🙇
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