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i can’t think of any options other than that. do you want to share the use case with us? since we have another way to bring up downstream clusters — via rancher and the harvester node driver.
o
I know rancher has the ability to provision downstream clusters, but from what I understand, it does not use vanillla cluster-api to do so. My team wants to reliably provision clusters using vanilla cluster-api and not have a requirement to have rancher do the provisioning.
r
makes sense. thanks for sharing. i guess the CAPHV is your best shot by now. i’d suggest creating a feature request ticket on the harvester/harvester GH repo, describing the use cases, so that i can bring up the topic with the harvester team.
o
https://github.com/rancher-sandbox/cluster-api-provider-harvester/issues/87 This is one issue that I think would help us a lot. I think the main thing is seeing the CAPHV move out of rancher sandbox if possible.