Hopefully just a yes/no question:
Is the rancher ...
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rich-memory-62740
03/18/2025, 11:13 PMHopefully just a yes/no question:
Is the rancher instance spun up within a harvester cluster designed to be interfaced with?
The alternative would be to spin up a rancher cluster within the harvester cluster using VMs and manage the harvester cluster (and it's built-in rancher cluster) from inside the new, nested rancher cluster.
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nice-horse-9611
03/19/2025, 6:41 PMyes you could run the rancher instance from a VM created inside Harvester cluster and you can manage your Harvester cluster from the rancher by importing it to your rancher cluster.
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rich-memory-62740
03/19/2025, 8:34 PMRight - I know I could do that, but is that the intended design?
Like, for example, what is stopping me from creating a load balancer or exposing ingress to the built-in rancher deployment that comes with harvester?
rich-memory-62740
03/19/2025, 8:35 PMIn that example, a fresh harvester cluster being managed by rancher would have a single rancher deployment. You wouldn't then have to also create a second rancher environment to manage the first
rich-memory-62740
03/19/2025, 8:37 PMAnd this could be my own ignorance talking - I'm making an assumption that the rancher/cattle-system namespaces and containers within a harvester cluster are the same as what you would deploy via "helm install rancher"
rich-memory-62740
03/19/2025, 8:38 PMThey very well could be different and meant for different purposes but just happen to be named the same because its the same underlying code
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nice-horse-9611
03/19/2025, 8:39 PMI am not sure about "helm install rancher".Adding some experts in that area @great-bear-19718 @red-king-19196
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great-bear-19718
03/19/2025, 9:34 PMwe do not recommend using the embedded rancher since it has a few features disabled and its upgrade cycle among other things is managed by harvester itself
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great-bear-19718
03/19/2025, 9:34 PMif you need a rancher to manage harvester our recommendation is to run it in vm or via the vcluster addon(which is currently experimental)
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