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You’d need to use the backup-restore operator to migrate everything over from the old rancher instance to the new one. You can’t just import clusters and have it treat them as provisioned, it is missing all the other resources that go along with the cluster when you provision it via rancher.
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great, thats what I was working on next...
thank you!
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gl!
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GM! From this document, it states that the Rancher Backup Operator only backs up the Rancher App. https://ranchermanager.docs.rancher.com/how-to-guides/new-user-guides/backup-restore-and-disaster-recovery/back-up-rancher I have a successful backup of the downstream cluster I want to move, but without a cluster on the new Rancher management console, where do I restore to? Rancher itself (local)?
apologies, rereading your post above: "use the backup-restore operator to migrate everything over from the old rancher instance to the new one." so it would require restoring the management cluster itself, not the individual clusters it manages.
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exactly