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Hmm, that doesn't sound quite right.. which version of Rancher are your running?

The version that expects an idiot to enable to Kubernetes API on his work gcloud account and not on his personal sandbox. 😛

Why not just deploy the rancher dashboard on top of your gke or K3s using helm? Are you operating on one VM for a single node set up or multiple VMs for HA?

actually that was one consideration... just manually create a gke cluster just to get rancher server up and running. lol. but when I say I'm a noob, I mean, I'm not even a *nix dude (I just happen to have been in IT since creating the first national ISP in Canada and played with large deployments, enterprise storage, compute and network, vmware admin and sales guy for long while) k8s just seems like natural progression that I was able to pick up the concepts easy... but because one thing I've learned is leaving a repeatable process and to share knowledge (terraform from scratch would be best in that case) I decided to go with what I know and deploy it as a gcp vm instance. I'm truly winging it here... although I

@bright-fireman-42144 I'm glad you were able to find what you need to keep working through your problem. In regards to your question

is there anyplace in the UI or within logs on the server itself that shows what API calls it is running and the responses?

You might be interested in going to Preferences => Advanced => Enable Developer Tools & Features. It's not quite what you're looking for, but it enables a "View in API" option on a lot of actions throughout Rancher and might give you an opportunity to dig through what's going on behind the scenes 🙂

That would be extremely helpful in not only troubleshooting but learning the 'under the covers' more as I delve into this new world. In a looooong ago time as a Microsoft Exchange admin, I really appreciated them adding the 'equivalent powershell command' for what you were doing in the UI. This sounds similar. Thanks! Tips and tricks, as I call them, are invaluable. Thanks again Phil.