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adamant-kite-43734
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fast-garage-66093
04/27/2024, 5:03 AMNote that Rancher Desktop uses k3s, not RKE2. Should not make a difference for a development setup, but just wanted to point it out, in case it is important to you.
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purple-scooter-94476
04/27/2024, 5:29 AMThanks Jan. Do you know if that will be a feature in the future?
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fast-garage-66093
04/27/2024, 5:31 AMThere are no plans for this so far; why would this matter for a local dev setup? RKE2 is really meant for production use in a data center. What specifically are you looking for?
fast-garage-66093
04/27/2024, 5:44 AMAs far as I see it, the main differences between RKE2 and k3s are:
• FIPS-140 compliance in RKE2 (boringssl etc)
• RKE2 uses etcd instead of sqlite for database backend
• RKE2 includes all the cloud provider drivers
fast-garage-66093
04/27/2024, 5:45 AMSo an option to use
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purple-scooter-94476
04/27/2024, 5:45 AMI'm exploring whether RKE2's FIPS compliance/validation, as well as testing as close to production as possible. But I'd also want to see if I can maintain FIPS compliance on a non-FIPS mode OS.
purple-scooter-94476
04/27/2024, 5:45 AMso far, openSUSE and Oracle 8 are the two I'm looking at.
purple-scooter-94476
04/27/2024, 5:46 AMI probably should test on Ubuntu, as it's advertised to work on there (assuming non-enterprise version).
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fast-garage-66093
04/27/2024, 5:46 AMI see. Rancher Desktop is really meant to provide seamless development support for containers and kubernetes on the desktop, and not to emulate a production environment.
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purple-scooter-94476
04/27/2024, 5:47 AMYeah, Rancher Desktop is not required for my testing; although it would make it easier.
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fast-garage-66093
04/27/2024, 5:48 AMI understand, but there are conflicting design goals: Rancher Desktop tries to erase the boundary between the host and the VM and pretends things "just work locally", and that is at odds with maximum lockdown that you would want for FIPS
fast-garage-66093
04/27/2024, 5:50 AMJust want to set realistic expectations what Rancher Desktop will deliver
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purple-scooter-94476
04/27/2024, 5:51 AMThank Jan. I pretty much gave up on it after I know it doesn't run RKE2 😄.
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fast-garage-66093
04/27/2024, 5:52 AMThe only reason we have been looking at RKE2 for Rancher Desktop on Windows is that it would be a prerequisite for supporting Windows containers with Kubernetes. But we decided that that isn't currently a goal (there is just not interest in Windows containers in general).
fast-garage-66093
04/27/2024, 5:53 AMGood luck with your FIPS evaluation!
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purple-scooter-94476
04/27/2024, 5:53 AMThanks for the great help Jan! I really appreciate it!
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fast-garage-66093
04/27/2024, 5:53 AMYou are welcome!