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# k3sa
adamant-kite-43734
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quick-dentist-45681
12/12/2023, 11:48 AMThis seems to result in something (cert-manager I believe) deciding that the Service is broken and attempts to create a new one, so I get a new service every 10 seconds ...
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creamy-pencil-82913
12/12/2023, 4:29 PMThis indicates that something is trying to update the resource, but it’s trying to apply an update to a resource that was deleted and recreated while the update was in progress.Precondition failed: UID in precondition: fc2b3615-7521-4563-a295-32e01363a7ea, UID in object meta: ""
creamy-pencil-82913
12/12/2023, 4:30 PMSomething is probably thrashing create+delete+recreate of the service, while kubernetes is simultaneously trying to keep the endpoints in sync for the service.
creamy-pencil-82913
12/12/2023, 4:30 PMif cert-manager is what’s creating and deleting and recreating the service, that is probably the cause of the problem, not a symptom.
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quick-dentist-45681
12/12/2023, 5:14 PMI had a similar problem earlier, where the resource being thrashed was pods, but that was cert-manager too I think, so maybe a bug in cert-manager ... 🤔
Seems to have gone away now, hopefully it stays gone 🤞
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