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# general
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Hi. I don't know too much about Rancher Desktop but I can assume that the containerd service and dockerd service only run when Rancher Desktop is running. Your docker ps commands will only work if the containerd/dockerd service is running which is part of the Rancher Desktop service. This is the same process if you were to run Docker Desktop. Hope this helps.
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thanks I am looking an automated way to run them without open rancher. I can automate if I know what exe/commands to run it