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05/28/2023, 2:21 PMlocally running - means bare-metal, is it?
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crooked-orange-82673
05/28/2023, 2:22 PMYes
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05/28/2023, 2:22 PMIf so then to expose public/NAT-ed IP you would need MetalLB
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05/28/2023, 2:22 PMIt will provide loadbalancer behind which the ingress will get an IP
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crooked-orange-82673
05/28/2023, 2:24 PMIf I switched to MetalLB Do I still need the nginx controller?
crooked-orange-82673
05/28/2023, 2:26 PMso in this case I will still have my nginx exposing my services, but MetalLB will set that externalIP load balancer for it, right?
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05/28/2023, 2:27 PMLoadbalancer from metallb is on OSI level 4
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05/28/2023, 2:27 PMSo it will do ports, TCP, UDP
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05/28/2023, 2:28 PMIngress in on OSI level 7
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05/28/2023, 2:28 PMIt does HTTP
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05/28/2023, 2:30 PMYou need both unless you do require only to open some port (usually not HTTP/S 80,443) and pass traffic in which case you do not need Ingress
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crooked-orange-82673
05/28/2023, 2:42 PMunless you do require only to open some port (usually not HTTP/S 80,443) and pass traffic in which case you do not need Ingress
In this case you mean that MetalLB will expose only specific service as the entrypoint for the cluster..
But instead, having ingress allow will allow me to forward traffic to different services behind the single metallb lb ip... right?
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05/28/2023, 2:43 PMYes the ingress will allow to forward traffic to different services behind the single metallb lb ip...
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crooked-orange-82673
05/28/2023, 2:44 PMIs there any way to do that using only ingress? without the need of MetalLb?
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05/28/2023, 2:44 PMYou can have multiple IP's too
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05/28/2023, 2:45 PMFor Bare Metal setup no way
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05/28/2023, 2:45 PMYou need Metallb or some Metallb alternative if exist
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05/28/2023, 2:47 PMIn a cloud provider a Loadbalancer and other network points (nat gateway, etc ) are already built-in (i.e. aws, gcp) therefore not such module as metallb required
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crooked-orange-82673
05/28/2023, 2:51 PMOK got it
crooked-orange-82673
05/28/2023, 2:51 PMYou mean multiple IPs for MetalLB, right?
crooked-orange-82673
05/28/2023, 4:15 PMThanks for the clarification and resources 🙂 ❤️
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05/30/2023, 5:46 AMSure, welcome. Yes multiple IP's set for separate Loadbalancer services handled by MetalLB.
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crooked-orange-82673
06/14/2023, 8:21 AMHi @acceptable-match-53099 Do you recommend MetalLB over Kube-VIP?
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06/17/2023, 5:23 AMacceptable-match-53099
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06/17/2023, 5:40 AMI haven't tried Kube-VIP yet.
Seems both can handle range IP's despite question/answer in reddit link above.
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06/17/2023, 5:42 AMI can tell that this IP range is made by kernel via iptables (nftables) rules as I observed on my Microk8s with Metallb setup. Also both Metallb and Kube-VIP support BGP. https://metallb.universe.tf/concepts/bgp/
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